I love Opera. I love Opera 9.27. I like Vista. I like Opera 9.27 on Vista.
I love Opera 9.5. I love Opera 9.5 on Windows XP. I hate Opera 9.5 on Windows Vista. It has prevailed to for unknown reasons crash ubiquitously quite a few times every day. I love Opera yet I live to suffer the distress inflicted by such an inharmonious upgrade. My ambivalence of devotion and contempt have led me to one opportune chance of switching from Windows Vista to Windows XP, just to use Opera 9.5 in peace.
You hear that, Opera Software ASA? I am willing to abide by your abounding unfulfilled promises by downgrading my operating system. I hope you realize that the ripples of actions reach beyond a browser experience.
On the other hand, I could pretentiously complain about Opera 9.5 and secretly use Opera 9.27 or Firefox 3. But what better ways to prove my fanboyism than to neglect the patent alternatives? My formidable fortitude and persistence will cling onto Opera like any Apple fanboy would defending Steve Job’s RDF even after the iPhone price drop. I will ignore all imparity and insidious disfigurement in the program that I am so amorously infatuated with, as any Firefox fanboy would deny and jubilate the total fiasco of Firefox 3 Download Day. I will, as would any die hard Apple fanboy, quell all inherent faults of my worship and disseminate mud slings at competitor products. I vow to embark on a journey crossing the Rubicon with the heavenly blessed Opera, as any Firefox user would promote his saviour or die trying.
Opera, release me from my misery and shambles. Set me free from your chains. Opera, please release Opera 10 with the once impeccable and auspicious performance you once so gratuitously bestowed upon my fortunate soul.
I thought it was just me, so I googled around for Opera 9.5 crashes on Vista. I was trying to save profile in Blogger just a couple of hours ago and Opera 9.5 kept experiencing crashes. It’s tiring, and I only wanted to save profile. I thought Opera is having that problems due to incompatibility with some websites, but I guess it’s on Vista now. My Reliability checks went down so many points just because of Application failure = Opera 9.5’s crashes. I really love Opera too, and this is disappointing.
Or maybe because it’s Opera 9.5 on Windows Vista (not SP1)? How does Vista SP1 handles this, d’you know?
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I’m using Vista SP1, and it crashes all the same for me. I’ve upgraded to Opera 9.51 and it has not changed at all.
First post in nearly a year and it’s still about Opera. :P Welcome back!
I am using Opera 9.51 with Vista SP1 and it crashes frequently. I have noticed that all of the crash come when searching for something from google in the address bar. For example: “g search term” will crash opera. Has anyone else experienced this?
I’m too using Vista SP1 which btw didn’t fix the copy-paste-it-will-take-ages issue for me :/ I think it all started when I upgrated to 9.5… Then the crash came. It just crashes every now and then and I fall apart! I tried to switch to firefox but NO NO NO!! It doesn’t work for me anymore.. It never did anyway. I pray for a new and fully fuctional upgrade cause I can’t use any other browser! Fanboy Am I?
Obviously, MSVista doesn’t wish to support browsers that allow user control over cookies.
The crash is caused by Opera not Vista. I am fortunate enough to be able to debug the cause of the crash and can categorically say the reason it does not crash in XP is because XP is forgiving code that had it been written in C++ would scream ‘dumb programmer’.
However, as Opera is written in Java I would say it’s more likely ‘Dumb Java compiler’.
If Opera would give us the option to use an external Java runtime rather then the in-built one I am sure the problem would evaporate.
Eclipse has the same problem with the bundled runtime; switching it to use the latest Java runtime solves the problem.
However, Java problems do not stop with Opera and Eclipse. The latest Vuze 3.1.1 (formerly Azureus) also has issues. It actually damages the settings for NVIDIA cards and causes all DirectX functionality to stop working correctly. Switch to a 2.5 branch of Azureus and all is fine. This is with the latest Java runtime, but a new version of SWT.
So the upshot is this - The Java VM engine is a piece of junk, always was and always will be. (NOTE I did not refer to the language, just the VM!) Well, what do you expect from a registerless machine based on a 1970s bytecode experiment in cutting the cost of CPU construction. Let’s pray Opera work around the VM bugs until they recode it in C++.
Aeomer, Opera is coded in C++, specifically using the QT framework. No Java is involved except for its browser plugin.
I am still experiencing these crashes with the latest version. God help us.
So it is a case of ‘dumb programmer’.
FYI, the crash I always get is when loading several images (disable images and watch the crash go away) over 53KB. The same crash at the same place as Vuze in the JVM even without any Java running on the page (I have java disabled).
I don’t think Opera has completely abandoned its Java roots.
Opera 9.6 (10414) also crashed in the same place. 9.6 (
10421) has not as yet crashed in the same way - though do remember it is Beta software. Here’s the link http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o960s_10421m.exe
I uploaded the crash data to Opera Dev a week or so ago and was asked to provide some more information by the dev team. (That was for 9.52 and 9.6 (10414)). Soon after 10421 was available and seems ’stable’ within the bounds of what is known not to work.
@Oliver
BTW - There is no mention of QT in About Opera - are you sure they use it on the Windows builds?
So it’s not just my POS computer. Good to know. I’ve had this problem ever since getting my new Vista computer. I seriously entertained the the thought that Microsoft was simply targeting third party browsers or something, because this is happening in FF3 as well. I repaired the install of of Opera(9.52) to no avail. Upgrade to 9.6 beta might have even made it a bit more prone to crashing. It seems to crash when closing pages or when finished loading them, and is VASTLY aggrevated by the number of tabs open, the total amount of time it has run throughout multiple sessions, though it doesn’t always have to follow these. Sometime it dies early on, and on the first few pages. It’s already generated 55 or so errors qued up to be sent to Microsoft. If Opera doesn’t fix this, maybe Microsoft can. Ha ha, that was laugh, I can’t imagine them being very sympathetic after the MSN debacle, but still, it’d be nice. I’d like to be able to browse without so many interuptions, and it occasionally causes me to lose large blocks of text.
I have vista (even if I hate windows) and I have opera. Not the newest version 9,52, but I think, that I have 9,50, but I did not have any problems wit it yet. Even if I use firefox for work and opera just for fun.
But I know, that my boyfriend, who has linux suse, has problems with new opera. And he is upset too.
FIXED!!
Atleast on my machine!
Running Vista 32bit and the latest build of opera. When using Ebay, Hotmail and various other sites Opera would crash with its standered appcrash.exe error. Upon visiting a site that crashed opera I ran it in IE ooly to have it tell me it wanted the latest and greatest java runtime.
After going to sun and downloading the latest from them it has been smooth running ever since, so go out and get java, good luck!